Frequently asked questions

Calm answers for reasonable questions.

This campaign is about public oversight, not fear. Casa Grande can support law enforcement while setting limits that protect ordinary residents.

Is this campaign anti-police? +

No. Casa Grande deserves effective public safety. We believe Casa Grande police were already doing good work before Flock. Based on reporting about a roughly $10 million, 10-year Safe City/Flock expansion, the city should not commit that scale of public money to surveillance technology without clear public rules, accountability, and proof that it is needed.

Source: Pinal Post: Casa Grande Approves $10 Million Flock System
What are Flock cameras? +

Flock cameras are marketed as license plate readers. But their own patent describes an AI-powered system that can: - Analyze video in real time - Identify people and objects - Assign attributes like clothing, color, and physical characteristics - Store that data for later search In plain English: this is a system designed to make real-world activity searchable, not just vehicles, but patterns of movement over time. Without clear limits, oversight, or warrant requirements, that raises serious civil liberties concerns.

I have nothing to hide. Why should I care? +

Because Flock does not only capture people who are doing something wrong. It captures everyone its cameras can see: children, parents, visitors, workers, students, worshippers, neighbors, and ordinary drivers, regardless of whether they are suspected of any crime. A child's face, location, vehicle, and routine can become part of a searchable record simply because they walked, played, studied, worshiped, or rode in view of a camera. The issue is not whether you personally have something to hide. The issue is whether the city should normalize tracking innocent people first and asking questions later. Flock claims the access was part of product demonstrations. But reporters and residents have noted that Flock executives spent many hours watching these camera streams. 404 Media reported that Flock employees accessed cameras in Dunwoody, Georgia, including cameras at a children's gymnastics room, a playground, a school, a Jewish community center, and a pool, allegedly as part of product demonstrations. That is why Casa Grande needs clear limits before expanding surveillance.

Source: 404 Media: City Learns Flock Accessed Cameras in Children’s Gymnastics Room
Isn't my phone already tracking me anyway? +

Phones, smart watches, connected cars, and smart speakers can create serious privacy problems too. But they are not the same as a citywide camera network watching public movement by default. You can turn off a phone, remove a watch, mute an Alexa device, or contact a car company about disabling connected vehicle tracking. Those options may not be perfect, but they give people at least some control. Flock does not offer residents an equivalent off switch. If you drive on public roads, the cameras can capture your vehicle and build searchable records of where it was seen. And unlike turning off a device, removing or obscuring a license plate to avoid tracking can break the law. That is why public surveillance needs public rules, not just trust.

Won't Flock stop crime? +

Not by itself, and the evidence is weaker than the sales pitch. Cameras can sometimes help police investigate a specific incident after it happens. That is different from proving that mass surveillance prevents crime. Prisons, banks, schools, and stores have used cameras for decades, and they still have assaults, thefts, robberies, and abuse. Surveillance often records harm. It does not automatically stop it. Flock is also easiest to avoid for people planning to commit serious crimes. A determined offender can remove or cover a license plate, switch vehicles, avoid known camera locations, or wear a mask. Meanwhile, everyone else keeps getting logged. Casa Grande should require proof that any surveillance expansion reduces serious crime enough to justify tracking ordinary residents, plus strict rules for warrants, audits, retention, sharing, and misuse.

Source: National Institute of Justice: Do license plate readers enhance deterrence?
Does Flock do more good than harm? +

Maybe someday, under a very different legal framework. We can imagine a future version of this kind of technology being used through the judicial branch, with warrants and documented legal standards, similar to cell phone records. But at that point, the question becomes: why do cities need a private mass-surveillance network like Flock at all? Flock has become popular in part because courts, lawmakers, and the public have not caught up to its rapid expansion and warrantless searching. Flock and local law enforcement appear to believe they can install these systems first, normalize them, and keep them once residents notice. Across America, people are realizing they are being mass surveilled, and innocent people have already been harmed by unchecked access, mistaken alerts, and personal misuse. Casa Grande should not wait for harm here before requiring warrants, audits, public reporting, data limits, and a public vote on mass surveillance.

Are you asking the city to remove every camera? +

No. We are asking for safeguards that make Flock use accountable:

Third-party independent audits

Require independent audits of Casa Grande Flock use, with the results reported publicly.

Stronger contract data limits

Add contract language that prevents Flock from selling, sharing, or monetizing machine-learned or derived data from Casa Grande.

Warrants for sensitive searches

Require warrants or comparable documented legal standards for Flock searches involving location history or sensitive investigative data, similar to cell phone records.

Disable outside-agency sharing

Turn off sharing of Casa Grande Flock data with outside agencies unless City Council publicly approves a narrow exception.

Legal consequences for misuse

Create clear penalties for Casa Grande staff misuse, including stalking, harassment, or personal searches, with termination, referral for prosecution, and jail time where allowed by law.

Can public safety and privacy both matter? +

Yes. The city can support serious investigations without turning ordinary life into a permanent location record. Good policy should focus Flock use on real public safety needs while preventing routine tracking, fishing expeditions, unchecked data sharing, and personal misuse.

Still have questions?

Ask city leaders to turn public concern into enforceable safeguards before expanding or renewing Flock surveillance.

  • Immediately put Flock camera use on the City Council agenda, hold a public study session, and put it on the record.
  • Require regular third-party independent audits of Flock use, with public reporting of the results.
  • Add stronger contract language limiting Flock from selling, sharing, or monetizing machine-learned or derived data from Casa Grande.
  • Require warrants or comparable documented legal standards for sensitive Flock searches, similar to cell phone records.
  • Disable sharing Casa Grande Flock data with outside agencies unless City Council publicly approves a narrow exception.
  • Create clear legal and employment consequences for Casa Grande staff misuse, including stalking, harassment, or personal searches.
  • Allow the people of Casa Grande to vote out Flock and all future mass surveillance systems.